Gang racism / Gang war

It seems that the violent Latino gang MS-13 has been wrecking some war memorial in New Haven, USA. Racial problems seem to be serious thing everywhere.
We do know that MS-13 targets black and white Americans for racist hate crimes. Yet, I do not need spray paint on memorials to show me that MS-13 wants to kill Anglo and African Americans. The Americas has a huge problem with these crime-related gangs. One solution would be to deal with them once and for all and let each country’s military deal with them, in the US, in Mexico, and in Guatemala.
Racist Mexican gangs are indiscriminately targeting blacks who aren’t even involved in gang culture, as part of an orchestrated ethnic cleansing program that is forcing black people to flee Los Angeles. In Guatemala, rival gangs kill each other and innocent people have to suffer from their wars on the street. The same as the black gangs “Crips” and “Bloods” did in the 90s in the US. In Australia, white Australian gangs go out at night on sc. “hunting missions”, to beat up Middle Eastern youths. In December 2005, gangs of white youths chased and assaulted anyone of vaguely Middle Eastern appearance, and fought police trying desperately to bring the situation under control. Other white supremacist groups roam Europe and the US.
Can we really live together in peace? One thing that drives us to enmity is the welfare state. Combine this with mass immigration and you’ll have a troublesome future. The welfare state promise benefits for the people, but only to entitled people (citizens). This might work well in a closed state with a closed economy for a period of time (and then the country is on the edge of bankruptcy because of its protectionism), but if it has relatively or extremely open borders chaos will break out in the end creating clashes between camps and groups. Why? Because racist accusations will always emerge like “you have no right to state benefits because you haven’t been living here long enough”, or “they only live on social welfare money and never do a jack shit”, or “why should we care about this country, we don’t have any close ties to it? Let’s use their benefits to educate ourselves and then move to some other place and take our future wealth with us”. All of which are fully reasonable and understandable that it occur. The solution is for the state to pull back. And let people be able to govern their own life. If you are able to survive on your own, get a salary to live on, and respect the people and culture that was there before you came, you should be able to live where ever you want in the world. Without any borders or Customs stopping you. But if you’re not, you can stay home.
And yes, one of the basic reasons why we even have a state is for the state to combat crimes and violence and defend our safety and freedom. Yes, I am talking about some sort of “social cleansing” an effort to weed out heavy criminals and gang supporters in our society, let them be white, black, or yellow-red Latino look-alikes. It doesn’t have to include killings, just taking them down and bring them to jail can be one solution. But how can it be wrong to declare war on the gangs that for ages have been having a war of their own already going on? In some places, gangs mean war on the streets. It would be righteous to defend the innocent and to win that war.

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25 Responses to Gang racism / Gang war

  1. Bill says:

    The latest crime plague in America. It is great that America has the ACLU and other groups that will protect the rights of MS-13 from those of us that wish to see the individuals incarcerated. I would not want their rights and “undocumented Americans” violated as we try to stop them.

  2. Roland Dodds says:

    I lived outside of New Haven for some time, and I am thankful I never ran into any of these guys. Sounds like a terribly depressing situation.

  3. tegis says:

    What is ACLU? *curious*

    New Haven sounds nice, but it seems that they have huge problems with segregation etc, right?

  4. newcentrist says:

    “Racist Mexican gangs are indiscriminately targeting blacks who aren’t even involved in gang culture, as part of an orchestrated ethnic cleansing program that is forcing black people to flee Los Angeles.”

    An “orchestrated ethnic cleansing program”? Evidence, please. Problems exist between the two communities but there is no need to engage in this sort of over-the-top sensationalism.

  5. jp says:

    wen a other rascist gang are attacking u or people u kno of the same race even tho u are not apart of it in the end u have to join a gang of the same race to survive

  6. newcentrist says:

    Tegis the link you provided contained no evidence of “ethnic-cleansing.” In fact:

    “There have been few studies of Los Angeles’ black-Hispanic gang violence. One was completed by University of California, Irvine, professor George Tita, who reviewed the nearly 500 homicides committed from 1999 to 2004 in one violent South Los Angeles police district and found almost all were black-on-black or Hispanic-on-Hispanic.”

    I grew up in Los Angeles and know tensions exist between the two communities. But ethnic cleansing? That’s just plain silly.

    The vast majority of the evidence produced by actual social scientists–as opposed to the anecdotal claims of pundits–point towards gangs preying on their kind i.e. black gangs on black folk, Latino gangs on Latinos, etc. etc. etc. This is also the case in the vast majority of historical studies of gangs that I am familiar with going back all the way to the nineteenth century in the U.S.

    In short, back up your rant with some actual evidence.

  7. tegis says:

    “http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article1545392.ab”

    It has even reached Swedish media which uses the same terms. These news are broadcasted worldwide about your hometown. Don’t you think it would die out before reaching global level if it wasn’t true?

    Are we just arguing about definitions here or what? Seems just like an act of futility ..

  8. les rois du mondes says:

    lesrth er erth rtyhezr tryhzer he”hy edyh zth rtz

  9. diablo Blanco says:

    Our people are so beaten down and even irrelenvant in our home country that we have 2 alien groups fighting over the carcasse of White America, Mestizos Y Indios (they ARE NOT latins!) and Blacks
    Expect no sympathy for eitherr from me……they BOTH need to GO HOME!

  10. chick who wants peace says:

    I just want all this gang stuff to stop. God is watching this from above and i’m sure he did not want the people he created to be fighting. he created every race and he never said one race was inferior to another. these people call themselves believers in the lord when they where the cross on their chest, when they are actually turning their backs on god which is the only deadly sin you can’t be forgiven for. TURN YOUR LIVES AROUND BEFORE JUDGEMENT COMES TO YOU.

  11. i think ur just fuckn gay, just leave them alone n let them do what tha fuck they wanna do bitch……….plus im wanna them so fuck off bitch…

  12. Hannibal says:

    I read: “In Australia, white Australian gangs go out at night on sc. “hunting missions”, to beat up Middle Eastern youths. In December 2005, gangs of white youths chased and assaulted anyone of vaguely Middle Eastern appearance, and fought police trying desperately to bring the situation under control”, and was dismayed by the grave distortion of actuality.

    Those “Middle Eastern youths” are not victims. They would like that to be the case as they pretend to be the victim. They are in fact the gang problem of highest notoriety in Australia and Sydney. A whole range of new crimes like gang rape, gang bashings, car rebirthing etc have started and risen in prominence because of these Middle Eastern, predominantly Lebanese and Muslim, gangs who terrorise the streets. The Cronulla Riot was one attempt at protest against the devolution. It sparked nights of Lebanese gang terrorism across Sydney’s eastern and south eastern suburbs.

    It is a problem we are aware of in Sydney and Australia and are working to – ever so slowly – address. The hope could be frustrated. But, we will have to wait and see.

  13. LOCO says:

    U WIL NEVA STOP US MUTHAFUKAS NEVER WILL WEL KIL U ALL AHAHAHAHA

  14. john says:

    F*** mexican gangs us crips we die 4 our color, rag and turf but 2 all mexicans this is a warning crips & bloods and every black gang is uniting 2 take each mexican out and La eme youl aint nothin compare 2 us big boys we MK 4 life holdin it down mexican killa.

  15. sharokina says:

    all of you need to GROW up!!

  16. frogggie says:

    what the hell fuck you diablo Blanco and you too john

  17. diablo 3 says:

    out in the end creating clashes between camps and groups. Why? Because racist accusations will always emerge like “you have no right to state benefits because you haven’t been living here long enough”, or “they only live on social welfare money and never do a jack shit”, or “why should we care about this country, we don’t have any close ties to it? Let’s use their benefits to educate ourselves and then move to some other???!

  18. hassan says:

    hej jeg synes det er meget slemt det de gør for jeg synes vi bare allesammen skal være venner.

  19. sean says:

    u are a goon fuck u all hahahahaha

  20. Anonymous says:

    go home and put ur head’s on the step and stop fighting

  21. your dad says:

    Niggers, Spics and Muslims fuck shit up wherever they go.

    Fuckin Animals

  22. jerry yu says:

    Fuck all these Mexican gangs…try to act tough but y’all mexicanooo aint got shit mo fu…hahaha lmfao Mexicanooo piece of shit

  23. What a humane point of departure. You really thought that one threw now didn’t you? 😉

  24. hood nigga says:

    yo yo yo. what up my nigga? everybody in the club is going crazy and getting tipsy. hahaha Y2K 4 life homie. m-13 dont know nothing

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