The bigoted Conservatives vs. the open-minded Libertarians

“The conservative movement has been hijacked and turned into a globalist, interventionist, open borders ideology, which is not the conservative movement I grew up with” – Pat Buchanan (from the Magazine “The American Conservative”)

Two of the statements above have been made by leading representatives of the American Conservative branch. As it seems to me, there are two types of Republicans, and two types of Republican voters. There is the open-minded, modern, and libertarian right-wing fraction who are supporters of free trade, open borders, and a responsible foreign policy that dares to stand up for democracy where ever its values are being threatened in the world. Then there is also the Christian fundamentalist branch who advocates strict old-school family values, supports anti-abortion campaigns, and wants to throw a veil over America and withdraw all troops from war-torn places around the world and only concentrate on America itself.
For the most part -the conservative, narrow-minded bone heads in the second version of the party attracts the most voters. There are enough hickory-heads, religious ass-wipes, and rednecks and hicks out there to fill the polls to the max. Sadly tho, these “I believe the world is 9000 years old”- people, are not the brightest bunch of God’s creation. I met one girl who represented this genre of Conservatives quite well. I think she was from Florida. Anyway, these people get stirred by such hate-breeders as Ann Coulter. Seriously Ann, you might have some good points, and I’m sure I hate liberal Jane-Fonda-people as much as you do (I need to see them everyday here in Sweden, think about that before you complain, Ann!), but Ann, how do you think you support ME when I am trying to defend the U.S. back here in Sweden, a country where it is trendy to mock the U.S., a country where it is mainstream attending at anti-American marches, how do you think you help me out here Ann when all you do is personify American ignorance and élitism? Seriously, we, the supporters of Pax Americana and defenders of liberty, need you and your kind as much as we need chafed feet during a bike vacation. I sometimes feel that I need to change shoes Ann, change into a pair of more comfortable shoes in order to avoid my chafed feet that I get from your lunacy.

I am not an expert on American politics, and I do not claim to be pretended as such either, but I think I know a little about it, and I think it is time for the grand ol’ Party to cut the sick branches off in order to save the tree.

I understand that, in order to keep Jane Fonda- people and Swedish-minded left-wing softies away from office, extreme measures need to be taken into consideration. If you want to have the majority of votes in America, you have to win sympathizers among the hickory-heads, religious ass-wipes, and rednecks and hicks that I already mentioned. But is it right to compromise with bad in order to achieve good? Ayn Rand didn’t think so. As she wrote about compromising: “In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit“. I think we can all agree a little bit at least with that and see clearly on the problem we have here – with the Bible belt, candidate Huckabee, anti-humanists like Ann Coulter, and Christian bigoted Conservative Magazines/Think-Tanks such as “The American Conservative”, which depicts Rudy as Hitler and Ron Paul as a threat to the nation etc.

We need a change here. It is time to ask ourselves an unavoidable question; if Conservative rule is spelled bigger State, more intervention in the economy, and a narrow-minded, bigoted view on people’s own private choices, if all this is true, if Republicans in power have failed so utterly to promote libertarian ideals, would libertarians better advance their cause by supporting Democrats at the polls?

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8 Responses to The bigoted Conservatives vs. the open-minded Libertarians

  1. Bill says:

    You touch many topics on this. Ann is basically a mouth that would do much good on her back in a bed that to open her mouth. Well, maybe not in a bed.

    What you consider bad/evil are those that oppose you. You are stereotyping the conservative side. What you appear to see are the those with the loudest voice. You refuse to distinguish between religious groups or those you’d consider as redneck/hick. I’ll leave out people like Coulter since these are individuals and it is easy to find they have nothing to offer.

    Even though I do not know much about Ayn Rand, comprising with evil produces evil and weakens good. I feel that way towards Islamic terrorists but not towards an individual that has an opposing viewpoint.

    The Democrats have control of congress and can not accomplish anything. Will placing one in the White House improve anything? A change is needed but not a vote for Democrats. It is a revolution that is needed. The American people need to wake up and remove those in office. Not only those that serve but the aides to the politicians. These people never go away when their congressman is voted out. They just move to the next person in line.

  2. newcentrist says:

    The Republican Party is a big tent and contains many “bases”:

    1. Fiscal Conservatives
    2. Social Conservatives
    3. Defense Hawks
    4. Libertarians
    5. Nativists/Xenophobes

    President Reagan’s coalition of the first three proved relatively stable but there is not a single Republican presidential candidate who appeals to all three. Some held hopes that Fred Thompson would emerge as such a figure, he has failed to do so. Instead, each candidate appeals to one element but is having problems bringing the others into a coalition. For example, Huckabee appeals to social conservatives, Giuliani and McCain to hawks, Paul to libertarians, Hunter to nativists, etc.

  3. tegis says:

    Now that’s a clever conclusion. I wonder tho what the differences are between nr 1 and 4. Both of them advocate a small government and as low taxes as possible, although nr 4 might more radical.

    C

  4. “There is the open-minded, modern, and libertarian right-wing fraction who are supporters of free trade, open borders, and a responsible foreign policy that dares to stand up for democracy where ever its values are being threatened in the world.” The people or fraction of the Republican Party that you refer to in the quotation above, doesn’t really exist. In the end a vote for the Republican Party, regardless of candidate, is nothing less then a vote for bigots such as Ann Coulter, Bill O’Reilly, Fred Thompson and Rush Limbaugh. The far-right Christian fundamentalist branch is, without a doubt, the most powerful branch of the Republican Party and even though there are poeple out there, as yourself, who belive that the Republican Party can and will change into something else, the sad truth is that as long as money talks the Christian fundamentalist lobbiest in Washington will keep the Republican Party protecting their intrests. So please Carl, the rethorics you use to spread your ideology are the same as Ann Coulter use when she bashes the leftwing. I’m a proud member of the Democratic Party or what you would call “a Jane Fonda-person” and I’ll do my best to ensure that we’ll have a Democratic president at the end of 2008. And I’ll also make sure that all the right-wing bias media in the U.S will be exposed as the liers they truly are.

  5. Giulia Guidi says:

    “For the most part -the conservative, narrow-minded bone heads in the second version of the party attracts the most voters.”

    Populistic extremists have always appealed to the ignorant voter!

    Then there is a large group of baby boomers and post-hippy 1968 “veterans” who have turned “square” and conservative, but still need some sort of larger-than-life moral crusade to fight for, instead of embracing the traditional conservative pragmatism, which they find dry, petty, boring and petit-bourgeois.

  6. newcentrist says:

    “The people or fraction of the Republican Party that you refer to in the quotation above, doesn’t really exist…The far-right Christian fundamentalist branch is, without a doubt, the most powerful branch of the Republican Party and even though there are poeple out there, as yourself, who belive that the Republican Party can and will change into something else, the sad truth is that as long as money talks the Christian fundamentalist lobbiest in Washington will keep the Republican Party protecting their intrest.”

    This is an ignorant comment. Social conservatives are vocal and well-organized but far from the most wealthy people in the Republican Party. Look at the big donors and you’ll see what I mean. It’s isn’t “Focus on the Family” or any other social conservative group. Here’s a nice representative sample of Bush’s biggest donor’s in 2004:

    http://www.publicintegrity.org/bop2004/report.aspx?aid=220

    $214,000 Pricewaterhouse Coopers
    $126,300 Deloitte & Touche
    $101,750 MBNA Corp.
    $85,655 Ernst & Young LLP
    $80,254 Merrill Lynch & Co. Inc.
    $78,947 Southern Co.
    $71,350 UBS AG Inc.
    $64,325 Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co.
    $59,850 United Services Automobile Association Group

    With the social conservatives it is less about their money than their votes. And outside of the South, social conservatives, or, “Christian fundamentalists” in your terminology, are not the majority in the Republican Party.

    California elected a Republican governor and social conservatives are quite weak in that state. Ditto with Giuliani in NYC or Romney in MA. In short, the sort of Republican who can win an election in Alabama is not the same sort of Republican who can win in the Southwest, Midwest, Northwest, or Northeast.

    The Republican Party contains a wide variety of perspectives on domestic and foreign policy. Look at the debate over immigration. The big business wing of the party would love to have some form of guest worker program to keep labor costs low and profits high. But the more populist wing (which I described as nativist, above) wants to “shut down the border.” This is common knowledge to anyone who observed the past election cycle.

    Lastly, I’d argue the ideas of people like Samuel Huntington and Bernard Lewis are far more influential in the present administration than people like Coulter.

  7. Jay says:

    The american people, and people around the world are not ready as a whole to responsibly accept the liberties and social freedoms granted in america.

    p.s. There should be mandated public executions on MSNBC to show how the government believes in protecting the people from rapists and murders.

    p.s.s. I like apple juice. If there is anyone out there who is interested in financing an apple juice business venture, I’m so in!!!

  8. NY says:

    That was definetly taken out of context and Ann Coulter was probably being her sarcastic self. I don’t really like her either but there’s no need 2 exaggerate or twist anything around. There are plenty of negative things to point out on both sides of the political world.

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